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You know those moments when someone thinks they’re telling you about some really great secret, but you, and a load of other people already know? Various of us at St James had that experience this morning listening to Rev Richard’s sermon.

On his day off, he and Penny his wife had headed off to the Bramshill Plantation, a large area of Forestry Commission land just over the border into Hampshire on the other side of Eversley. They went walking off into the forest, Rev Richard armed with a map and compass, and managed to get them thoroughly lost.

Luckily for them, they met someone else walking through the forest, and asked him if he knew where they were, he pulled out a handheld GPS unit – something Rev Richard hadn’t seen – and read off the co-ordinates. They then got talking about precisely why this man was wandering around the forest, and he said he was a Geocacher, and that he’d just done one of the caches that are hidden in the plantation.

At this point in telling the story, Rev Richard asked whether anybody knew about Geocaching, and I guess was slightly surprised at the people who knew. The reason of course that a lot of people around the Church know becomes clear when you watch our Geocaching video in which our segment is filmed around St James. Various people know about the game having seen us on the programme when it was originally shown, and various others, generally those involved with grounds maintenance know about the game having inadvertently found the cache – indeed the cache has moved twice following occasions when the regular maintenance rendered the previous location unsuitable. The interesting thing is that despite having been here several years, nobody had actually told Rev Richard about the cache. Not surprising really as it’s not usually the kind of thing that comes up in conversation…

Anyway, Rev Richard carried on, telling how the Geocacher had taken him back to the cache he had just found, and the story was used as an analogy – searching for treasure with the Christian search for ‘treasure’.

St Swithun's Nately Scures

After the service I told Richard quite how close he’s been to a geocache (our Queens Oak cache mentioned in the film) for the past few years, indeed the fact he’s walked past it every day. I also mentioned myself and Beth’s involvement, including us being one of the seven founder teams behind the Geocaching Association of Great Britain, and have since sent him the link to the video. I’ve also taken the opportunity to upload some of the older Geocaching snapshots I have on iPhoto – these ones are from back in 2003, including some shots of the preserved planes a Lasham Aerodrome which figure as clues in a cache, and another church with a cache close by, the almost totally unaltered St Swithun’s Nately Scures, which gives you an idea of what St James must once have looked like before the subsequent generations started knocking through bigger windows and adding bits.

So I guess the question is, has Rev Richard now got the Geocaching bug?

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So since I have a nice little device that can play video, I’ve been trawling through all the old video clips I have sitting around to try them out. One item I came across was this, our fifteen minutes of fame from early 2003 back when Inside Out interviewed us about Geocaching (see their page about the show here) which went out originally in the Southern area, and in some other regions later on.

The clip sequence is especially notable for the fact that thanks to the BBC cutting everything I said it’s basically Chris Packham interviewing Beth and me holding the box… It’s also worth it for Dan and Pid, the infamous night cachers who appear after us. Enjoy.

Incidentally, the full set of pictures from the cache, up to the point the camera was removed can be seen online here. Where known the pictures include the names of the cachers.

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Over the past few months I’ve been thinking that I really should get some more exercise. One of the ways I tended to do that, before I worked at SSE was by Geocaching, however over my time there with the extra time I was spending travelling, plus a lot of other demands on my time our caching trips generally reverted to being on holiday only.

A couple years back I wrote about the lack of UK topographic maps from Garmin, and discussed a way around the problem. However since then, Garmin have addressed the problem with the release of Mapsource GB Topo – although subject to a number of limitations as to what the user could do with the Ordnance Survey data it contained. However it didn’t particularly help me, as it was only supported on the newer generation of eTrex units, not my first generation eTrex Vista. Anyway, since we were only really Geocaching on holiday, and Topo Canada worked fine on my old GPS, it didn’t really bother me much.

With the decision to get some more exercise, I took a look at doing some more UK Geocaching, and came across a whole raft of special offers at GPS Warehouse, including a bundle containing the latest generation eTrex Vista Cx, and a copy of GB Topo too. I couldn’t resist and put my order in. It has to be said that there was a worrying moment or two, as in the past packages from them have arrived the next day, and this one took a few days to despatch, but anyway, the new GPS arrived this week. Incidentally, if you look down the list of offers, there is quite a range, including a number of cheaper packages, however I opted for an eTrex Vista again because it includes the electronic compass. Whilst it is possible to go Geocaching with a unit without this, personally I’ve always found it is better to have a unit that correctly reads the direction in which you are facing when you are stood still – the other units, that base the direction on the direction of last movement are a bit more of a pain, especially close to the cache. However if you want a cheap and rugged GPS to get started, you can’t go wrong with the classic yellow eTrex – which you can currently pick up for £69.99 from GPS Warehouse.

Old and New eTrex Vista

Unpacking my new eTrex Vista, it was a slight case of same yet different. You can see what I mean from the picture – the new unit, although laid out in exactly the same way as the old one is somewhat shorter and fatter than the original, I suspect because the colour screen in the new unit is a more conventional shape for other devices that are using colour screens. Hardware wise, the old style serial port has been replaced with USB – a relief as my laptop doesn’t have a serial port, and the serial to USB cable I have doesn’t like Windows Vista-64. The new eTrex Vista uses exactly the same cable as my Streetpilot i2, and so is quite happy thanks to the 64-bit support from Garmin I discussed recently. Alongside this, the new unit now makes a selection of beeps during operation, including a useful proximity alarm when you get close to a Geocache. Software wise things have moved forwards. There is explicit Geocache support – back when I first started there weren’t even Geocache icons in the default set, these didn’t arrive until a later software update for the units. The unit also takes the same sized microSD memory cards that the Streetpilot i2 takes which is useful, and the software has been expanded to include a routing mode. However I wouldn’t recommend it for road navigation as it lacks the voice directions – it only beeps to tell you of a new instruction, meaning you have to look at the screen to see the next direction. In my opinion, the most important thing for a road navigation unit is good clear spoken instructions as the last thing you should be doing is to take your eyes off the road to look at a little screen – hence what you need is a good reliable unit with spoken instructions and a simple interface, hence why to some peoples surprise I opted for the black and white Streetpilot i2, rather than a more fancy unit.

Anyway, back to the new eTrex Vista. For Geocaching, my requirements are somewhat different. I’ve already mentioned the importance of the electronic compass, but with the colour screen and the topographic maps, alongside the fact that the unit is rugged and fully waterproof, coupled with the small size, it is great for a bit of caching. So this afternoon I took it out for a spin, trying a couple of local caches.

Back when I first went out caching, caches in the UK were few and far between, indeed our Queens Oak cache was the first cache to be placed in Berkshire when it was hidden back in 2001. Now when I pulled the list of the closest 100 caches to home from the site, all the caches were between the line of the M4 and M3! Whereas for a long while our closest caches were our own, just two miles away, there are now twelve caches closer to home than those.

As I had a couple of errands to run at the Church, I opted to try the Finchampstead Microcache, and Rectory Hollow caches as these were a short walk from the car park there.

Late Afternoon Finchampstead Fields

The closest was the microcache, a 35mm film canister hidden close to the path down from White Horse Lane to the village, which as implied by the description on the page, didn’t prove to be too much of a problem to find. One of the things you pick up quite quickly when caching is there are a number of common places people will hide things – indeed one of the reasons I drifted away from caching was due to the repetitive nature of a number of the caches. However it was the first time I’d actually explored this bit of Finchampstead, and I was treated to some quite stunning views across the fields in the late afternoon sun.

Next on my list was Rectory Hollow, which was a much larger box, but also had reports of issues with the co-ordinates. The cache owners had checked several times, and usually got the right co-ordinates when approaching from the north-east – the direction from which I was coming. This one was again alongside a path, but this time the path from the Church that heads down towards the Tally Ho pub and Eversley. Oddly enough, although the GB Topo included the footpath from the Church (or at least from the point where it is only a footpath rather than the access for a couple of houses on the top of the hill, the part of the path on from where it meets the Whitehorse Lane to the Village path is missing – a common problem. According to this discussion (relevant statement is about a third of the way down the fourth page) the problem is down to the quality of the data supplied by the Ordnance Survey. Apparently the vector mapping includes only those paths surveyed by the OS surveyors – paper maps and the raster mapping generated from them include right of way information licensed from local authorities that isn’t licensed here – as the vector mapping is primarily aimed at business who have more interest in urban and city areas, the vector mapping is apparently more accurate there.

Heading down to the cache site, and trying not to look suspicious to the various dog walkers I passed, I actually initially missed the cache site as the proximity alarm for the cache didn’t sound. This was because the co-ordinates placed the cache out in the middle of the adjacent field. I tried moving out from under the trees, and trying again, but the GPS was consistently placing the location in the field, necessitating a more detailed search to try and find the box. Unfortunately I’d hit the time of day when quite a few people were out walking their dogs, so that combined with the problems with the co-ordinates meant that I decided to call it a day and head back to do what I needed at the Church. I’d got the bit of exercise, which was the point anyway, even if I didn’t find both caches. I’ll head back another day when hopefully the geometry of the satellites will be such that I can get a better fix on the location.

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Updating the GPS from Mapsource on Vista-64

Although I’ve been running a 64-bit operating system on my laptop since new, one of the big annoyances is the general lack of support that hardware manufacturers have shown towards the 64-bit platform. As a result, I’ve had to keep a 32-bit install of Windows around for a number of tasks, one of the main ones being to keep my Garmin StreetPilot i2 up to date. To be honest, since it was such a pain keeping two Windows installs around, I haven’t much bothered.

However recently, my i2 announced that the maps were out of date, and directed me to the Garmin website where it offered me an update to the latest version of the maps – more than that, whereas the unit shipped with only UK coverage, the update would contain coverage of the whole of Europe, pretty useful for our summer holiday to France. By this point, I had updated the laptop to Vista-64, and to be honest I was expecting it not to work, but then I came across this post on the Garmin Blog on Vista Compatibility which claimed in the second half of February, Mapsource, and more importantly the USB drivers for the GPS units will be compatible with both 32-bit and 64-bit editions of XP and Vista. Checking the download area, this month, there were indeed drivers that said they were Vista compatible.

I dutifully downloaded both the latest Mapsource and Drivers, and installed them. Then when the update for the GPS arrived yesterday, I set that going. Here is where the hassle started, when at the relevant point in the City Navigator 9 install I plugged in the GPS, it refused to recognise the unit. I sent a support e-mail off to Garmin, and experimented some more. After reinstalling the Mapsource and USB drivers from the download, the unit was now recognised – however every time I tried to use the update on the DVD, it failed to recognise the unit again – it seems like despite the downloads being newer versions, the update DVD is overwriting the installed versions with it’s own versions – a bit of pain really. It’s not too much of a problem though, as I installed the map data onto my PC, and then did the map update manually – the process that is pictured above.

Aside from the annoyance with the install on the DVD, it seems to work pretty well flawlessly with Vista-64 – all from a single install too – none of this 64-bit/32-bit downloads. Certainly there are a number of other manufacturers of hardware who are still working on compatibility – Philips for example – who don’t support their SPC900NC camera on Vista at all currently – so it’s good to report that the Vista driver issues are starting to be fixed, particularly for those of using the 64-bit version.

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I’ve been pondering an curious question recently – should Geocachers be allowed to read the logs for caches that they have not found? The reason for the question comes from looking at the logs for our Oracle Microcache, which is now reactivated after the hassle last month.

The most recent logs clearly show the issue. First take a look at this log.

Found it, first one ever.
Easy to find without GPS if you read all the logs and know the area, though getting my bike to the location was… tricky.

It’s from somebody who knows the area and has carefully gone through all the previous online logs (which include pictures taken by people near the cache) and worked out where the cache is located and found it without a GPS. Quite impressive in some ways, but missing the point. In comparison, take a look at this not found log.

gutted, as kept getting bad signal on my GPS. Was looking forward to doing this before late night shopping

Then this log that follows it.

Found at about 19:00. Really really enjoyed this one. You urban cachers don’t know what a change urban caching is compared to rural caching!! …

Also, the co-ordinates are very very accurate.

Very many thanks. Great fun. Instead of just thinking about X & Y, also having to think about Z makes a change!

There are a great variety of caches. Sometimes they take you to a new or unique place that you’d otherwise have never seen, other times it is a puzzle, or teaches you something new. In terms of the Oracle Microcache there is nothing unique about the location, and it’s actually just a straight hide – no puzzle involved, however what it does do is teach you something about your GPS. As the not found cacher, and also the person who found it after them discovered, the GPS is lousy at ground level in an urban environment. More than that it is downright misleading at times because thanks to signals reflecting off buildings some units quite often maintain that they have a much more accurate fix than they actually do. Over the years I have had quite experienced cachers tell me that the Oracle Microcache is impossible because of problems with the signal, but as those who find it discover it is really quite straightforward at the location because the co-ordinates are spot on.

I guess it really depends what you get out of caching. In my case I’m not about finding as many caches as I possibly can – I’d much rather do one cache that I enjoy, than a whole load of repetitive caches. Indeed we tend to only cache when we are on holiday now, using it as a way to find new places to visit. If you’re after as many caches as possible, having the logs gives you loads of clues as to a location, and allows you to find a cache really quickly, but in the case of the Oracle Microcache I really think you miss out on part of the fun.

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So here I am going through the e-mail, and I get a log for our Oracle Microcache which is an APS film canister hidden in the centre of Reading. Not uncommon as we get a steady stream of visits. Then I actually read it…

I’d overheard a conversation about this cache sometime ago, so got to the area quickly. Found with a little help from a local Geobabe currently in Devon. Fortunatly, I was at a fancy dress party last night dressed as the grim reaper so had a handy sythe to help me ;-)

Cache stuffed with random pieces of paper so took the liberty of swapping it out for a fresh 35mm cannister with pencil.

The first paragraph is fine, but the second left me absolutely speechless. It’s always been stuffed full as it’s got four years worth of people signing it, plus various people have left other things in it, however he’s apparently just taken all of that away and replaced it with his own canister – and he didn’t even leave the same sort, he left a 35mm canister instead. Now it’s not uncommon for people to maintain other peoples caches, but it is usual to actually ask them before doing anything, certainly before taking their cache and replacing it with a totally new container.

I’ve got no idea what he’s actually done with what he’s removed – I’d actually like him to put it back if he’s got it, have to see what’s happened. I’ve e-mailed him, and also e-mailed one of the UK admins, so lets see what comes about.

Update: Ok, I’ve calmed down somewhat now. I’ve not heard from the cacher in question, as I’m told he’s actually on his holidays and touring around, using a mobile to produce the logs – which now explains why it was a short log.

Apparently he has kept the cache and is intending to scan in the logs which is nice. I’ve come to the decision, as suggested by some other cachers, to disable the cache for the moment, until I can get up there to check what is there. I shouldn’t think there is anything wrong with the new container as the cacher who changed it over has a load of his own caches, just making sure. I’ve also e-mailed the cacher again to thank him for keeping the logs, and see where we go from here.

I’m loathed to loose the Oracle Microcache as it produces by far the most amusing logs of any of our caches – not many caches that people have resorted to a vacuum cleaner to retrieve…

Update 2: Well I’ve heard back from the cacher – unfortunately not the nicest of e-mails. Sadly he doesn’t seem to understand why I should be upset at the idea that he has totally replaced one of my caches, apparently he’s done it to other peoples caches before and they’ve thanked him. Really it reminds me of just why I am glad not to be an admin on Geocaching.com any more. Trying to deal with peoples different ideas of what is acceptable and not is a real pain at times – it’s not the first time something like this has happened and it won’t be the last. The most notable I can remember from when I was fully active in the community with was one cacher who thought he’d be helpful and have the camera in somebody elses cache developed – it went down badly with both the cache owner and other people in the community – but then others thought he was only trying to be helpful.

I e-mailed again, apologising, trying again to explain why I’m upset by it, and suggesting we draw a line under the incident, to which he replied in fairly terse agreement, to his credit he has also gone and put the original cache back in place. I honestly think that he believes he was doing me a favour, and that he can’t understand why I was upset by what he did. The game is such that aside from cacher meets I’ll be unlikely to meet the guy, and with the few caches I have around, there’s not much chance of our paths crossing, so hopefully that will be an end of it.

The general comment I’ve had from most other cachers is that though I over-reacted a bit, which I accept, it is always good practice to e-mail before doing something significant somebody elses cache. An e-mail saying that the cache container was looking a bit battered and that he had a replacement he could provide would have been fine.

Interestingly as a result of this, the suggestion that has come from other quarters is that I should just draw a line under my whole participation in the game and archive all my remaining caches and be done with it. Certainly it gave me a lot of stress when I was more active, which is partly why I’m in the background now – and with the spectre of litigation against cache owners it certainly seems worth getting out and archiving all my remaining caches too.

Anyway, I’m not going to make any decisions on that just now, since as you can see elsewhere we’ve got somewhat more pressing matters to attend to with the house.

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Queens Oak View 001

As you may know, although we don’t actually go out Geocaching very much at all now (usually only when we’re on holiday), we do still maintain our geocaches, including Queens Oak, our first one hidden up near the Church.

In actual fact it generally needs very little maintenance, so generally I just check to ensure it is still there every few weeks or so – what I don’t generally do is check inside so that I don’t have to fight my way through the brambles to find it. Anyway, I got a log for it last night from someone saying that the logbook was full, to which I replied asking about whether the camera inside the cache was used. The reply came back from the cacher saying that he had made the log book comment on the wrong cache listing, and in fact ours was fine, but that he hadn’t seen a camera. As a result, this morning I went up and took a look.

First off it took a bit of finding, as the cache was actually in the wrong spot, about a metre away from where it should have been. Aside from that it looked undamaged, however taking a look inside, there was no disposable camera.

I checked back through the logs, and the last time somebody actually reported taking a picture with the camera was back in October. Now if it was a brand new camera I’d understand, but I’m just totally bemused as to why somebody would want to take a half used disposable camera, what possible use is a whole load of snapshots of total strangers going to be? Quite apart from the annoyance, there are a whole load of cachers whose pictures are now lost, which is a shame, considering the pretty good results I’ve got from the first three cameras. You can browse through the old snapshots on the cache photo page.

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View North-East from the Church Tower

Although we rarely get out and about caching these days, we do keep an eye on our various caches, and ensure that people log them correctly. The traffic on our physical caches such as The Queens Oak is fairly steady, with a couple of finds a month.

However the cache that gets the most attempted postings is Tower Views, which is a locationless, or reverse cache – one where you have to find a type of location, and send evidence of the find. In this case, the idea is to get to the top of a Church tower, although I have accepted other towers too, but specifically one that is not usually open to the public.

St James Tower

Some of the finds are a bit borderline, with the possibility that they are open to the public, however some people who post just blatantly haven’t read the description of what is required. I’ve now lost track of the number of times I have had to delete pictures of towers, without the required view from the top. Indeed some people have posted towers that you cannot get to the top of, the most amazing being the person who posted a picture of a mobile phone mast and expected the find! Over the past few weeks more than 50% of the logs have been incorrect.

Anyway, I’ve updated the cache description page again, including a picture of what I want in the text, rather than just attached, and we’ll see if that makes any difference. Probably not – locationless caches have always been seen as a bit of an easy score. Having said that, as a result of the abuse of Locationless caches, as of the end of this month, cachers will no longer be able to log them, which probably explains the rush I guess.

Having said that, for general amusement and satisfaction for the frustration it causes, top of the pile is still our Oracle Microcache, which is basically just an APS film container hidden in the Oracle centre in Reading. It’s a double whammy in terms of difficulty because not only do the buildings make getting an accurate location reading difficult, but getting the cache out without being spotted is really difficult too.

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Tower Open Day 2

After heavy rain all morning, this afternoon we were very lucky with the weather for the annual opening of the tower.

The rain stopped by about two o’clock, and by the time I arrived at the church at 3 o’clock the sun was starting to break through. The photographer from the local paper made it to the top of the tower this year, and took a picture of Maurice Driver and his two grandsons, so hopefully that will appear in next weeks paper.

When I got back, I also discovered that some Geocachers had logged the tower for one of my caches, which I was slightly annoyed to have missed!

Anyway, I’ve uploaded some more pictures from today, plus a few other shots of the church to a picture gallery.

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So after almost four years, a third roll of pictures from the camera in our Queens Oak cache has been posted to our pictures site.

We were actually able to pick up the camera pretty quickly, as we spotted the last cachers finding the cache whilst we were clearing up after the APCM at the church. (Not anything like the moan fest that others seem to suffer!)

With the handy overnight CD service it is pretty straightforward to load the pictures into iPhoto, and rebuild the site using BetterHTMLExport.

As before, the pictures do serve to show what a wide range of people are now going out Geocaching. If you look at the pictures there are all sorts of people from all age groups – looking at them you can’t really classify any as a stereotypical geocacher.

If you haven’t tried geocaching, the Geocaching Association of Great Britain (which I helped set up) is a good place to start.

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After the release last year of Magellan MapSend Topo UK for Magellan GPS’s, I was keeping my fingers crossed that Garmin would strike a similar deal and produce a similar product as part of their Mapsource line for my eTrex Vista. Taking a look at the selection of countries with Topo coverage that their third-party programme had provided it was starting to get quite odd that there was no UK coverage.

For those people not aware of the situation in the UK, the government does have an agency that has a complete digital topographic map of the UK, the Ordnance Survey. Aside from the well known printed maps in 1:25000 and 1:50000 they do a variety of digital maps well above the level of detail needed for a consumer GPS. The big problem, as always comes down to money. Whilst there are quite a few products such as MemoryMap Navigator that are based on some of their raster data (although note the lack of complete 1:25000 coverage), the vector data needed for handheld GPS units is only available at a significant premium. Whereas Garmin can obtain the relevant data for the United States and Canada the official response to enquires about a UK Topo product from Garmin is that the licensing cost is too much. For a UK resident this is particularly annoying as we’ve already paid for the mapping to be done by way of our taxes!

Anyway, I recently came across talk of a page by the Scottish Mountaineering Club which was hosting a set of UK contour maps produced from the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission by another disgruntled Garmin GPS owner who wanted topographic maps for his GPS. The solution is a somewhat manual process, but the result is a contour map for the whole of the UK and Ireland that can be loaded into a Garmin GPS. I downloaded the maps this afternoon, and within about 20 minutes had them all loaded into my copy of Mapsource.

Of course there is a certain irony to the fact that whilst through my taxes I’ve paid for the Ordnance Survey to keep an accurate digital map of the UK, but I’m having to load data paid for by the US taxpayer, but available for free onto my GPS!!!

Update: It looks like the link is now long since dead. Having said that, in the intervening time, Garmin have now produced an official topographic mapping for the UK.

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