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Fifteen Minutes of Fame

So since I have a nice little device that can play video, I’ve been trawling through all the old video clips I have sitting around to try them out. One item I came across was this, our fifteen minutes of fame from early 2003 back when Inside Out interviewed us about Geocaching (see their page about the show here) which went out originally in the Southern area, and in some other regions later on.

The clip sequence is especially notable for the fact that thanks to the BBC cutting everything I said it’s basically Chris Packham interviewing Beth and me holding the box… It’s also worth it for Dan and Pid, the infamous night cachers who appear after us. Enjoy.

Incidentally, the full set of pictures from the cache, up to the point the camera was removed can be seen online here. Where known the pictures include the names of the cachers.

Back Searching the Countryside with Mapsource GB Topo

Over the past few months I’ve been thinking that I really should get some more exercise. One of the ways I tended to do that, before I worked at SSE was by Geocaching, however over my time there with the extra time I was spending travelling, plus a lot of other demands on my time our caching trips generally reverted to being on holiday only.

A couple years back I wrote about the lack of UK topographic maps from Garmin, and discussed a way around the problem. However since then, Garmin have addressed the problem with the release of Mapsource GB Topo – although subject to a number of limitations as to what the user could do with the Ordnance Survey data it contained. However it didn’t particularly help me, as it was only supported on the newer generation of eTrex units, not my first generation eTrex Vista. Anyway, since we were only really Geocaching on holiday, and Topo Canada worked fine on my old GPS, it didn’t really bother me much.

With the decision to get some more exercise, I took a look at doing some more UK Geocaching, and came across a whole raft of special offers at GPS Warehouse, including a bundle containing the latest generation eTrex Vista Cx, and a copy of GB Topo too. I couldn’t resist and put my order in. It has to be said that there was a worrying moment or two, as in the past packages from them have arrived the next day, and this one took a few days to despatch, but anyway, the new GPS arrived this week. Incidentally, if you look down the list of offers, there is quite a range, including a number of cheaper packages, however I opted for an eTrex Vista again because it includes the electronic compass. Whilst it is possible to go Geocaching with a unit without this, personally I’ve always found it is better to have a unit that correctly reads the direction in which you are facing when you are stood still – the other units, that base the direction on the direction of last movement are a bit more of a pain, especially close to the cache. However if you want a cheap and rugged GPS to get started, you can’t go wrong with the classic yellow eTrex – which you can currently pick up for £69.99 from GPS Warehouse.

Old and New eTrex Vista

Unpacking my new eTrex Vista, it was a slight case of same yet different. You can see what I mean from the picture – the new unit, although laid out in exactly the same way as the old one is somewhat shorter and fatter than the original, I suspect because the colour screen in the new unit is a more conventional shape for other devices that are using colour screens. Hardware wise, the old style serial port has been replaced with USB – a relief as my laptop doesn’t have a serial port, and the serial to USB cable I have doesn’t like Windows Vista-64. The new eTrex Vista uses exactly the same cable as my Streetpilot i2, and so is quite happy thanks to the 64-bit support from Garmin I discussed recently. Alongside this, the new unit now makes a selection of beeps during operation, including a useful proximity alarm when you get close to a Geocache. Software wise things have moved forwards. There is explicit Geocache support – back when I first started there weren’t even Geocache icons in the default set, these didn’t arrive until a later software update for the units. The unit also takes the same sized microSD memory cards that the Streetpilot i2 takes which is useful, and the software has been expanded to include a routing mode. However I wouldn’t recommend it for road navigation as it lacks the voice directions – it only beeps to tell you of a new instruction, meaning you have to look at the screen to see the next direction. In my opinion, the most important thing for a road navigation unit is good clear spoken instructions as the last thing you should be doing is to take your eyes off the road to look at a little screen – hence what you need is a good reliable unit with spoken instructions and a simple interface, hence why to some peoples surprise I opted for the black and white Streetpilot i2, rather than a more fancy unit.

Anyway, back to the new eTrex Vista. For Geocaching, my requirements are somewhat different. I’ve already mentioned the importance of the electronic compass, but with the colour screen and the topographic maps, alongside the fact that the unit is rugged and fully waterproof, coupled with the small size, it is great for a bit of caching. So this afternoon I took it out for a spin, trying a couple of local caches.

Back when I first went out caching, caches in the UK were few and far between, indeed our Queens Oak cache was the first cache to be placed in Berkshire when it was hidden back in 2001. Now when I pulled the list of the closest 100 caches to home from the site, all the caches were between the line of the M4 and M3! Whereas for a long while our closest caches were our own, just two miles away, there are now twelve caches closer to home than those.

As I had a couple of errands to run at the Church, I opted to try the Finchampstead Microcache, and Rectory Hollow caches as these were a short walk from the car park there.

Late Afternoon Finchampstead Fields

The closest was the microcache, a 35mm film canister hidden close to the path down from White Horse Lane to the village, which as implied by the description on the page, didn’t prove to be too much of a problem to find. One of the things you pick up quite quickly when caching is there are a number of common places people will hide things – indeed one of the reasons I drifted away from caching was due to the repetitive nature of a number of the caches. However it was the first time I’d actually explored this bit of Finchampstead, and I was treated to some quite stunning views across the fields in the late afternoon sun.

Next on my list was Rectory Hollow, which was a much larger box, but also had reports of issues with the co-ordinates. The cache owners had checked several times, and usually got the right co-ordinates when approaching from the north-east – the direction from which I was coming. This one was again alongside a path, but this time the path from the Church that heads down towards the Tally Ho pub and Eversley. Oddly enough, although the GB Topo included the footpath from the Church (or at least from the point where it is only a footpath rather than the access for a couple of houses on the top of the hill, the part of the path on from where it meets the Whitehorse Lane to the Village path is missing – a common problem. According to this discussion (relevant statement is about a third of the way down the fourth page) the problem is down to the quality of the data supplied by the Ordnance Survey. Apparently the vector mapping includes only those paths surveyed by the OS surveyors – paper maps and the raster mapping generated from them include right of way information licensed from local authorities that isn’t licensed here – as the vector mapping is primarily aimed at business who have more interest in urban and city areas, the vector mapping is apparently more accurate there.

Heading down to the cache site, and trying not to look suspicious to the various dog walkers I passed, I actually initially missed the cache site as the proximity alarm for the cache didn’t sound. This was because the co-ordinates placed the cache out in the middle of the adjacent field. I tried moving out from under the trees, and trying again, but the GPS was consistently placing the location in the field, necessitating a more detailed search to try and find the box. Unfortunately I’d hit the time of day when quite a few people were out walking their dogs, so that combined with the problems with the co-ordinates meant that I decided to call it a day and head back to do what I needed at the Church. I’d got the bit of exercise, which was the point anyway, even if I didn’t find both caches. I’ll head back another day when hopefully the geometry of the satellites will be such that I can get a better fix on the location.

Garmin Vista-64 Support

Updating the GPS from Mapsource on Vista-64

Although I’ve been running a 64-bit operating system on my laptop since new, one of the big annoyances is the general lack of support that hardware manufacturers have shown towards the 64-bit platform. As a result, I’ve had to keep a 32-bit install of Windows around for a number of tasks, one of the main ones being to keep my Garmin StreetPilot i2 up to date. To be honest, since it was such a pain keeping two Windows installs around, I haven’t much bothered.

However recently, my i2 announced that the maps were out of date, and directed me to the Garmin website where it offered me an update to the latest version of the maps – more than that, whereas the unit shipped with only UK coverage, the update would contain coverage of the whole of Europe, pretty useful for our summer holiday to France. By this point, I had updated the laptop to Vista-64, and to be honest I was expecting it not to work, but then I came across this post on the Garmin Blog on Vista Compatibility which claimed in the second half of February, Mapsource, and more importantly the USB drivers for the GPS units will be compatible with both 32-bit and 64-bit editions of XP and Vista. Checking the download area, this month, there were indeed drivers that said they were Vista compatible.

I dutifully downloaded both the latest Mapsource and Drivers, and installed them. Then when the update for the GPS arrived yesterday, I set that going. Here is where the hassle started, when at the relevant point in the City Navigator 9 install I plugged in the GPS, it refused to recognise the unit. I sent a support e-mail off to Garmin, and experimented some more. After reinstalling the Mapsource and USB drivers from the download, the unit was now recognised – however every time I tried to use the update on the DVD, it failed to recognise the unit again – it seems like despite the downloads being newer versions, the update DVD is overwriting the installed versions with it’s own versions – a bit of pain really. It’s not too much of a problem though, as I installed the map data onto my PC, and then did the map update manually – the process that is pictured above.

Aside from the annoyance with the install on the DVD, it seems to work pretty well flawlessly with Vista-64 – all from a single install too – none of this 64-bit/32-bit downloads. Certainly there are a number of other manufacturers of hardware who are still working on compatibility – Philips for example – who don’t support their SPC900NC camera on Vista at all currently – so it’s good to report that the Vista driver issues are starting to be fixed, particularly for those of using the 64-bit version.

Geocaching Online Logs

I’ve been pondering an curious question recently – should Geocachers be allowed to read the logs for caches that they have not found? The reason for the question comes from looking at the logs for our Oracle Microcache, which is now reactivated after the hassle last month.

The most recent logs clearly show the issue. First take a look at this log.

Found it, first one ever.
Easy to find without GPS if you read all the logs and know the area, though getting my bike to the location was… tricky.

It’s from somebody who knows the area and has carefully gone through all the previous online logs (which include pictures taken by people near the cache) and worked out where the cache is located and found it without a GPS. Quite impressive in some ways, but missing the point. In comparison, take a look at this not found log.

gutted, as kept getting bad signal on my GPS. Was looking forward to doing this before late night shopping

Then this log that follows it.

Found at about 19:00. Really really enjoyed this one. You urban cachers don’t know what a change urban caching is compared to rural caching!! …

Also, the co-ordinates are very very accurate.

Very many thanks. Great fun. Instead of just thinking about X & Y, also having to think about Z makes a change!

There are a great variety of caches. Sometimes they take you to a new or unique place that you’d otherwise have never seen, other times it is a puzzle, or teaches you something new. In terms of the Oracle Microcache there is nothing unique about the location, and it’s actually just a straight hide – no puzzle involved, however what it does do is teach you something about your GPS. As the not found cacher, and also the person who found it after them discovered, the GPS is lousy at ground level in an urban environment. More than that it is downright misleading at times because thanks to signals reflecting off buildings some units quite often maintain that they have a much more accurate fix than they actually do. Over the years I have had quite experienced cachers tell me that the Oracle Microcache is impossible because of problems with the signal, but as those who find it discover it is really quite straightforward at the location because the co-ordinates are spot on.

I guess it really depends what you get out of caching. In my case I’m not about finding as many caches as I possibly can – I’d much rather do one cache that I enjoy, than a whole load of repetitive caches. Indeed we tend to only cache when we are on holiday now, using it as a way to find new places to visit. If you’re after as many caches as possible, having the logs gives you loads of clues as to a location, and allows you to find a cache really quickly, but in the case of the Oracle Microcache I really think you miss out on part of the fun.

Speechless

So here I am going through the e-mail, and I get a log for our Oracle Microcache which is an APS film canister hidden in the centre of Reading. Not uncommon as we get a steady stream of visits. Then I actually read it…

I’d overheard a conversation about this cache sometime ago, so got to the area quickly. Found with a little help from a local Geobabe currently in Devon. Fortunatly, I was at a fancy dress party last night dressed as the grim reaper so had a handy sythe to help me 😉

Cache stuffed with random pieces of paper so took the liberty of swapping it out for a fresh 35mm cannister with pencil.

The first paragraph is fine, but the second left me absolutely speechless. It’s always been stuffed full as it’s got four years worth of people signing it, plus various people have left other things in it, however he’s apparently just taken all of that away and replaced it with his own canister – and he didn’t even leave the same sort, he left a 35mm canister instead. Now it’s not uncommon for people to maintain other peoples caches, but it is usual to actually ask them before doing anything, certainly before taking their cache and replacing it with a totally new container.

I’ve got no idea what he’s actually done with what he’s removed – I’d actually like him to put it back if he’s got it, have to see what’s happened. I’ve e-mailed him, and also e-mailed one of the UK admins, so lets see what comes about.

Update: Ok, I’ve calmed down somewhat now. I’ve not heard from the cacher in question, as I’m told he’s actually on his holidays and touring around, using a mobile to produce the logs – which now explains why it was a short log.

Apparently he has kept the cache and is intending to scan in the logs which is nice. I’ve come to the decision, as suggested by some other cachers, to disable the cache for the moment, until I can get up there to check what is there. I shouldn’t think there is anything wrong with the new container as the cacher who changed it over has a load of his own caches, just making sure. I’ve also e-mailed the cacher again to thank him for keeping the logs, and see where we go from here.

I’m loathed to loose the Oracle Microcache as it produces by far the most amusing logs of any of our caches – not many caches that people have resorted to a vacuum cleaner to retrieve…

Update 2: Well I’ve heard back from the cacher – unfortunately not the nicest of e-mails. Sadly he doesn’t seem to understand why I should be upset at the idea that he has totally replaced one of my caches, apparently he’s done it to other peoples caches before and they’ve thanked him. Really it reminds me of just why I am glad not to be an admin on Geocaching.com any more. Trying to deal with peoples different ideas of what is acceptable and not is a real pain at times – it’s not the first time something like this has happened and it won’t be the last. The most notable I can remember from when I was fully active in the community with was one cacher who thought he’d be helpful and have the camera in somebody elses cache developed – it went down badly with both the cache owner and other people in the community – but then others thought he was only trying to be helpful.

I e-mailed again, apologising, trying again to explain why I’m upset by it, and suggesting we draw a line under the incident, to which he replied in fairly terse agreement, to his credit he has also gone and put the original cache back in place. I honestly think that he believes he was doing me a favour, and that he can’t understand why I was upset by what he did. The game is such that aside from cacher meets I’ll be unlikely to meet the guy, and with the few caches I have around, there’s not much chance of our paths crossing, so hopefully that will be an end of it.

The general comment I’ve had from most other cachers is that though I over-reacted a bit, which I accept, it is always good practice to e-mail before doing something significant somebody elses cache. An e-mail saying that the cache container was looking a bit battered and that he had a replacement he could provide would have been fine.

Interestingly as a result of this, the suggestion that has come from other quarters is that I should just draw a line under my whole participation in the game and archive all my remaining caches and be done with it. Certainly it gave me a lot of stress when I was more active, which is partly why I’m in the background now – and with the spectre of litigation against cache owners it certainly seems worth getting out and archiving all my remaining caches too.

Anyway, I’m not going to make any decisions on that just now, since as you can see elsewhere we’ve got somewhat more pressing matters to attend to with the house.