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Millions of Dollars Spent, and No Difference

Tonight we had one of our monthly God @ Work (@ The Pub) sessions in the Queens Oak down the hill from St James. This time Becky had been asked to talk about her work, which is as a school nurse focusing in particular sex education. Becky talked about the difficulties of resolving her personal opinions, with what she feels she should be saying to the young people from a professional point of view, and also what she feels her Christian faith should lead her to tell the young people, and the tension between those aspects of her life. As is quite often the case in such discussions the group quite quickly got onto the subject of abstinence programmes, particularly those backed by conservative Christian groups such as the Silver Ring Thing.

This proved to be a somewhat appropriate topic considering an article this weekend reporting on a report on the effectiveness of abstinence programmes by Mathematica Policy Research in the US. Essentially despite the US government having poured nigh on a billion dollars into abstinence programmes over the past decade, this multi-year comparison of such programmes with regular sex education has shown that there is no difference at all in the outcome. It is quite amazing how closely all the major criteria match between the groups on the abstinence programmes, and the control group, and would certainly be seen as a disappointment to those backing such schemes.

In the UK, abstinence programmes are not as widespread, however with our reputation for the Silver Ring Thing do have a UK programme. Looking at what is officially offered an Ofsted report last week into PSHE (Personal Social and Health Education) in schools found that young people felt that both parents and teachers were not good at talking about sexuality and as a result they were turning to magazines for help. Barely a year ago, another report said that UK sex education was ‘too biological’. It seems almost inevitable that pressure to run more of these abstinence programmes in the UK is going to come – but are they going to be any more successful?

Lets Talk About Sex

So tonight was the first time that we’d talked about sex and relationships with the older young people in the Youth Group since No Sex Please We’re Teenagers.

This time we were using a DVD called Fresh, from a group called The Tribe, backed by The Message Trust in Manchester. We’re working through a number of their sessions, and certainly this, like the previous session has gone down well with our group. We also made use of some of the things we’d picked up from watching “No Sex…“.

As usual there were some interesting moments. We kicked off with rating ten attributes for your perfect partner – and most of the boys put looks at number 1, whilst the girls generally went for sense of humour, or trustworthy. Again there was a quite shocking lack of knowledge, which is ultimately why we cover the topic quite frequently – tonight we had at least one person who didn’t know what an abortion was, there was the usual looks of horror when we talk about STD‘s, particularly Chlamydia and it’s lack of symptoms, and perhaps most worrying was that a number of the young people thought that AIDS had been cured.

Whilst it is one of those sessions that we as leaders don’t overly look forward to, partly because of the subject matter, and partly because Beth and myself, as a couple doing the session we do get quizzed by the young people about our history at times. However when the young people demonstrate, as the young people on “No Sex…” did, that they are being affected by our culture, but have a frightening lack of knowledge, if we’ve at least equipped them with a better understanding of the issues, risks, and how to cope, then it is worth a bit of discomfort for the leaders.

No Sex Please We’re Teenagers Part 3

Tonight we had the third and final part of “No Sex Please We’re Teenagers” on BBC2.

Although the programme closed with the graduation of the initial twelve young people, at the same time it was also a beginning, with the first meeting of a new group, and also showing visits into local schools to talk about the project.

The first part of the programme tonight was a sequence with one of the weekly meetings, taking place a month before the end of the project. Watching this I realised that in the earlier shows we hadn’t really been given a chance to see the group discussions – the kind of thing we do week by week with our youth group. What it did highlight is how well the group as a whole worked together, and the excellent relationship that Dan and Rachel had with the group. In the same way as any group you had some real outgoing personalities, and some quiet ones, Jenine being one that makes a big impression.

In fact, following on from last week, there were many more examples of how attached Dan and Rachel had become to the group over the four months, and the group had become attached to Dan and Rachel. However there was a funny moment, a real put the youth leader in their place moment, when Byron and Grace were asked about leading the next group and said it was better as everybody was around the same age – Dan and Rachel were just so old! (It actually mirors a discussion we’ve been having about how the Youth Leaders at St James are seen.)

We again saw the group meeting outside, this week including being taught Salsa dancing, where everybody seemed to have a great time. There was also an interesting sequence in the light of the discussions about teenagers and hoodies, where some of the group were taken along to a fashion expert and shown how what they wear affects how they are percieved.

Of the new group, we saw the first meeting, and also a longer sequence with one of the girls in the new group, who had a long term boyfriend to whom she had lost her virginity aged 14, and she was now worried that he was only interested in her for the sex. Having signed the pledge she then phoned him and told him what she had done. Whilst it looked like it might be curtains for the relationship at that point, with the boyfriend having problems with it, the programme caught up with her after the end of her pledge, to find that the period without sex had allowed them to get to know each other better, and ultimately strengthened the relationship.

Towards the end of the programme we saw what was possibly one of the hardest parts for the group, which was one of the last meetings, where it was confession time – had the members of the group stuck to their pledges. As Dan and Rachel explained to the group, many people watching would automatically assume that a bunch of teenagers couldn’t possibly really stick to the pledge. In a fairly tense moment for everybody involved, four of the group admitted that they had broken the pledge. However what is massively important is that because they knew that they would not be judged, and that they were loved and cared for by the group whatever they had done, they were able to admit their mistake, and move on. As was later highlighted at the ‘graduation’ they were being honoured for what they had achieved, the way they had grown. The fact that they made mistakes getting there was irrelevant.

Looking further afield, we saw changes in Dan and Rachel as well. Whilst initially the plan was for them to go back to their previous jobs at the end of the project, the success of the group has inspired them to go on, and we saw two of their school visits, one of which resulted in 100 young people wanting to become involved.

So as I said, an end, but also a beginning. The project moving forward can be found online at http://www.romanceacademy.org.

No Sex Please We’re Teenagers Part 2

I’ve just finished watching the second part of “No Sex Please We’re Teenagers“, having taped it tonight. In a strange coincidence we were due to meet tonight with the other Youth Group leaders to plan the schedule at St James.

Anyway, my initial reaction was a lot better than the way I reacted last week, perhaps because since then I’ve read various of the discussions and comments on the first programme, but also partly because of a subtle change in emphasis.

Although the young people still played a large role in tonights episode, you saw a lot more of Dan and Rachel, and also a lot more of some of the questions that as youth leaders you often ask. Questions like whether you are doing the right thing, covering a topic in the right way and so on. In light of my concerns with the whole US experience in last weeks programme, it was particularly reassuring seeing both Dan and Rachel being concerned about the effect of the Silver Ring Thing, and also, even though they wanted them to take the pledge, they were still concerned that they were doing it for the right reasons, rather than being carried away with the whole experience.

The results of the group attending the Silver Ring Thing show were interesting, the founder of the movement made some interesting comments about the difference between “US faith” and “UK faith”, which partially explains the generally negative reaction I’ve found to what the programme has shown of the US abstinence movement. Although the whole week long trip had a profound effect on the group it certainly re-enforces the differences in what The Romance Academy is doing in Harrow. It is also great to see how much the young people have been noticeably changed by the project.

It was interesting watching the young people deal with the simulated babies – reminding me of what happened with a couple of our Youth Group members when they did a similar task with their school. The simulated baby was brought along to Church, and kept in the pew – until it started crying that is! It was also really great to see the results, totally the opposite to what was expected that the couple you’d expect to do well had taken the baby to a driving range, and had ‘killed’ the simulated baby, and the other couple scored 80%. However for all of them it re-enforced what a big commitment a baby will be.

Moving on, I was really impressed with the way that the young people from inner city Harrow dealt with the visit to Stowe. They managed to put over their position superbly. Of course the next sequence when they were asked to do the same shows that in some ways presenting to strangers is a lot easier that presenting the same message to your friends.

The final scenes, where the attempt to form a second group was covered were also interesting for a number of reasons. Firstly we got to hear from one of the parents, a mother who I’m sure thought that she’d brought up her children, and been absolutely shocked and upset, having found out that her daughter was having sex with a boy who lived on the same street. The second interesting moment was the first meeting, where you got a classic example of how difficult working with teenagers can be, and how a few difficult young people can disrupt everything for everyone else. From the point of view of a Church youth group you really don’t want to stop anybody from coming, but at the same time you know that the rest of the group will suffer if you don’t. A classic quandary.

All in all I was much happier with part two, and the really positive effect the project has had on these twelve young people. We’re now really looking forward to part three next week.

If you want more information about the Romance Academy project, they have the beginnings of a website at http://www.romanceacademy.org/.

No Sex Please We’re Teenagers Part 1

Note: If you have come direct to this posting via a search, please be aware that this only discusses episode 1. The posting for episode 2 is available through this link, which has comments enabled. As this is now an old posting, comments are disabled here to stop spamming.

So tonight, the BBC showed the first of their three part series “No Sex Please We’re Teenagers” which made headlines over the past couple of weeks. The following item from todays Daily Mirror gives the general attitude to the show in some quarters:

RACHEL and Dan are the kind of perky, Tiggerish Christian youth-workers who could have stepped out of a Little Britain sketch.

In that meddling, do-gooding way that some Christians have, they’ve somehow persuaded 12 kids aged 15 to 17 to become born-again virgins and give up sex for five whole months. I can see you rolling your eyes already.

Their intentions are well-meant but if anything will put these teenagers off their stride, it’s Dan’s disturbing habit of referring to sex as “woopsie”.

I suspect many grown-ups will also be trying desperately to get that word out of their heads tonight as they turn back their beds.

Anyway, from my somewhat less tabloid angle – the programme follows a group christened ‘The Romance Academy’ consisting of a group of twelve teenagers from Harrow, and two Christian youth workers, Rachel Gardner and Dan Burke over a five month project where they agree to not have sex. It’s worth mentioning that although many of them are sexually active, some having lost their virginity as young as 12, there are also practising Christians among the teenagers who are already practising abstinance. They are also a pretty mixed bunch in terms of their backgrounds, beliefs and so on – basically a cross-section of modern teenagers.

The programme started with showing the first meeting, where the teenagers discussed the rules by which they would live over the next five months. Probably the most cringe-making part of this first meeting was the somewhat poor choice of word that Dan made, picked up on by the Daily Mirror, although having said that, it was fairly apparent that the group ribbed him over it too. One of the more amusing moments in this bit was that the other youth worker, Rachel is actually married, and the teenagers demanded that she should also participate, to the point that she actually phoned her husband! Not surprisingly he said no!

From that opening, the programme moved on through the first few weeks of the experiment, in which they basically were like almost any other youth group, going off ice skating, and having discussions. This was intercut with footage of one-to-one interviews with the teenagers talking about their background. What is interesting is the paralells among many of the group in that many of them had been drunk when they lost their virginity, thought it wasn’t all it was cracked up to be, and had largely regretted it. In amongst this was the youth worker Dan talking about becoming Christian, which produced a laugh out loud funny moment – he initially thought that the ‘Holy Spirit’ was a new sort of drug…

Anyway, the whole area of alcohol and it’s effects on teenagers came up again in the next major event, when the group was taken away for the weekend. The rules were pretty standard stuff for a youth weekend – no drink, no drugs and seperate bedrooms for boys and girls. Also, not surprisingly for a youth weekend, the boundaries were pushed and the no drink rule was broken on the first night. To some extent I think that what happened was probably a good thing for the group, as it actually gave the youth leaders and the group a good point to start a discussion on the role that drink has played in the teenagers lives.

The third segment of tonights programme was in some ways for me the most disturbing for me, and covered eleven of the group (the last of the group – one of the drinkers for the weekend – having been arrested being drunk the night before departure) going to Florida to a Church heavily backing the abstinence message, and participating in the ‘Silver Ring Thing‘ a US initiative to promote abstinence. You had to bear in mind that the majority of the UK teenagers were not Christian, many having never been inside a Church, and here they were being dropped into the totally alien environment of a charismatic evanglical Church – the kind of Church that even many middle of the road Christians would have a problem with. However it is worth saying that it seemed to be the kind of environment in which the Youth Workers were perfectly comfortable.

From the first meeting with the families several of the teenagers expressed discomfort – aside from the alien religious aspects most of the American teenagers had been brought up in the Church, and therefore were in a totally different place having never been sexually active, rather than being sexually active and trying to stop.

The first meeting with the American Pastor was actually quite amusing in some ways. As Beth discovered when she came over here, British teenagers are a lot more vocal in their opinions. The Pastor found the same when he tried to ‘preach’ his opinion at them, and had quite an argument on his hands. At one point one of the American teenagers even intervened in the discussion feeling that the British were showing a lack of respect.

After that both the Americans and British teenagers were taken on an outing, which all seemed to enjoy, however things took a turn for even more disturbing when the British teenagers were taken along to the Americans Youth service. Three of the girls just couldn’t cope and left after a while, whilst some of the others in the group according to the youth worker Dan had a religious experience.

The reason I found the whole thing disturbing is that from my point of view it mixed up the whole sexual abstinence issue with an attempt to convert the group to Christianity – essentially getting the whole group to gel as one, and then taking them along to a service. Whilst I am aware that it is the Church that is the main driver behind the abstinence movement in the USA, my big concern is that hitting a group of teenagers with little or no Church background with a full scale evangelical service as they did, could prove to be counterproductive. To my mind whilst the Youth Workers were Christian – the idea of encouraging the teenagers to focus on realtionships rather than sex is not tied with the need to become Christian. In some ways the two youth workers, who seemed totally at ease in the service forgot firstly the stated point of the experiment, and secondly how alien Christianity can seem to people with no Church background. As has been said to me, a large number of teenagers will just switch off when directly faced with religion, or religious messaged, and that often the religious message in a session has to be got in ‘under the radar’. Certainly we have found that even with our church based youth group – the discussions that get most easily bogged down or diverted are the obviously religious ones – whereas those where the religious aspect becomes clear at the end work a lot better.

It is worth saying at this point, that from the clips of the next episode, it seems that the youth workers possibly realise their mistake, as there are several sequences of one of the youth workers saying that they don’t have to participate (and the group of girls who walked out saying that they are going to bring a deck of playing cards and a ball to the next session as they think they’ll get bored very quickly).

Certainly it will be interesting to watch the remainder of the series, both from the point of view of the subject, plus also as a feeder into the ongoing discussion amongst the volunteer youth leaders at St James as to whether a paid youth worker would be a good investment. Tonights episode highlighted the benefits in terms of the time that a youth worker can spend with the young people – time we as volunteers with full time jobs just don’t get to spend. However it also highlighted how important it is that you match your youth worker with your group of young people, so that you don’t get situations like what happened in the programme where parts of the group are turned off. Bear in mind that you can easily get a similar reaction from teenagers brought up in a Church like St James, as from those who have had no Church experience if you drop them cold into a service like the Americans held.